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Ephesians 2:8 Revision History

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3Thursday, 28-Mar-2019 21:41:58 EDTElissa Grace [Send Message]Revision of 2for by grace you have been saved through faith, and thisᵃ that not of yourselves,; it is the gift of God,
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a τουτο "this" demonstrative determiner is NEUTER so it MUST connect to the OTHER neuter noun in the phrase and not faith because faith is FEMININE so... if Paul was saying "faith is the gift" he would had to have used a FEMININE determiner not a neuter. Further if Paul was referring to 2 things (salvation and faith) he would have used a PLURAL determiner like he did in 1 Cor 6:8 where he uses a pl neuter tauta to refer to BOTH their doing injustice and their defrauding..
b an alternative translation could be: "for by grace you have been saved by faith and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God or and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God
2Friday, 15-Feb-2019 13:04:02 ESTElissa Grace [Send Message]Revision of 1for by grace you have been saved through faith, and thisᵃ that not of yourselves,; it is the gift of God,
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a τουτο "this" demonstrative determiner is NEUTER so it MUST connect to the OTHER neuter noun in the phrase which is GIFT (not faith because faith is FEMININE) so... if Paul was saying "faith is the gift" he would had to have used a FEMININE determiner not a neuter
b an alternative translation could be: "for by grace you have been saved by faith and this gift is of God and not out of you."
1Friday, 15-Feb-2019 13:00:20 ESTElissa Grace [Send Message]NEWfor by grace you have been saved through faith, and thisᵃ that not of yourselves,; it is the gift of God,
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a τουτο "this" demonstrative determiner is NEUTER so it MUST connect to the OTHER neuter noun in the phrase which is GIFT (not faith because faith is FEMININE) so... if Paul was saying "faith is the gift" he would had to have used a FEMININE determiner not a neuter